Why Robert Shiller Is Wrong About The Bond Market Crash

Daily Chart February 17th

2/17/2015 – A positive day with the Dow Jones up 26 points (+0.15%) and the Nasdaq up 5 points (+0.11%) 

On January 31st I told my subscribers that the market might bottom and turn around at the Dow 17,050 (+/- 50 points) on February 3rd (+/- 1 trading day). The Dow hit an Intraday bottom of 17,038 on February 2nd and we are up a little over 1,000 points thus far. If you would like to find out what happens next, please Click Here. 

I tend to find myself agreeing with Robert Shiller, more or less, about 50% of the time. For instance, I couldn’t agree more with his overall view on the stock market and today’s valuation levels Shiller’s back, and he has more depressing news  Basically, the stock market is an overvalued and highly speculative mess driven by massive capital infusion by the FED. And investors who believe that this upside trajectory can continue for the foreseeable future are deluding themselves. Just as they did at 2000 and 2007 tops.

With that in mind, I believe Mr.Shiller is dead wrong on his view in terms of bonds. Shiller warns bond investors: Beware of ‘crash’!  At least for the time being.

Here is why yields will continue to decline as the yield curve flattens further.

  1. The bond market is starting to see a severe recession and a bear market within the US Economy. Our mathematical and timing work confirms the same. Showing a significant recession and a bear market between 2014/15-2017. 
  2. Typically, 30-year bear markets in yield do not end in a V shape form. When such long moves complete they often set a secondary bottom (at least). This fits well within our overall economic forecast as we anticipate yields to set a secondary bottom over the next 2-3 years. In 2016 to be exact.
  3. There are a number of open gaps leading all the way down to 1.4-1.6% on a 10-Year Note. Again, it is highly probable yields will go there over the next 2-3 years.

In other words, our work suggests that bond yields are acting rational and will not crash over the next few years. The same cannot be said about the stock market. In fact, when we put all of the above together, it becomes evident that the US Economy and the US Stock Market are in real trouble going forward.

BTW: GARY SHILLING (not to be mistaken with Robert Shiller) AGREES: Buy bonds because deflation is here

This conclusion is further supported by my mathematical and timing work. It clearly shows a severe bear market between 2014/15-2017. In fact, when it starts it will very quickly retrace most of the gains accrued over the last few years.  If you would be interested in learning when the bear market of 2014/15-2017 will start (to the day) and its internal composition, please CLICK HERE.

(***Please Note: A bear market might have started already, I am simply not disclosing this information. Due to my obligations to my Subscribers I am unable to provide you with more exact forecasts. In fact, I am being “Wishy Washy” at best with my FREE daily updates here. If you would be interested in exact forecasts, dates, times and precise daily coverage, please Click Here). Daily Stock Market Update. February 17th, 2015  InvestWithAlex.com

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Shocking News: Is The Bond Market Bubble About To Burst?

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Most market participants continue to watch in disbelief as bond yields continue to trend lower and the yield curve continues to compress in the most unexpected fashion. This pair of articles that give a good overview on the subject matter.

Here is the bottom line. Anyone who expects the “bond market bubble” to burst is in for quite a shock. First, there is NO bond market bubble. There is a massive stock market bubble, but the same cannot be said about the bond market. Second, as I have mentioned earlier the bond market is starting to see a severe recession ahead….hence the decline/compression.

Finally, 30-year bull markets (in bond prices) typically do not end in a simple V shape form. The bond market is going lower to set a secondary/double bottom that will coincide with a bear market of 2014-2017.

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Shocking News: Is The Bond Market Bubble About To Burst? Google

Are Bond Vigilantes Buying Bonds?

Yield Curve as of 2014-05-26

As yields continue to decline and as the yield curve continues to compress, BusinessWeek asks “Where Are The Bond Vigilantes

In fact, Bloomberg News reports, there is “deepening concern among bond investors that tepid wage growth and a lack of inflation will persist for years to come.” The story quotes Margaret Kerins, the Chicago-based head of fixed-income strategy at Bank of Montreal: “Potential growth is a huge determinant of that long-term rate and most people are buying into the idea of lower potential growth.”

I think this is the most significant story no one is talking about. While most people believe yields are heading lower due to the lack of inflation, slower growth or simply because the bond market has gone crazy, I do not share in their optimism.

 Here is why the yields are going down and the yield curve is compressing. 

  1. The bond market is starting to see a severe recession and a bear market within the US Economy. Our mathematical and timing work confirms the same. Showing a significant recession and a bear market between 2014-2017. 
  2. Typically, 30-year bear markets in yield do not end in a V shape form. When such long moves complete they often set a secondary bottom (at least). This fits well within our overall economic forecast as we anticipate yields to set a secondary bottom over the next 2-3 years. In 2016 to be exact.
  3. There are a number of open gaps leading all the way down to 1.5-1.6% on a 10-Year Note. Again, it is highly probable yields will go there over the next 2-3 years.

When we put all of this together, it becomes evident that the US Economy and the US Stock Market are in real trouble going forward.

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Citi’s Chief Equity Strategist: Forget About The Bond Market, Stock Market Will Rally.

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At least at the Citigroup, the bull market never ends. That is unless and until they have to beg the American taxpayer for billions in bailout money.

“We think [the reason for falling yields is] pretty technical. Look at jobs, auto sales, planned capital expenditures — none of that is indicative of something ominous in the economic data.”

So what explains it? Levkovich believes the justification for the bond rally has been driven by technical factors like people covering short positions, which he’s heard that banks and a number of institutions have had to do.

The bottom line in his view is that “people have been reading a little too much into it.”

Reading a little bit too much into it? Huh. I am not sure how many times investors have to learn the hard way not to discount what the bond market is telling them. What is the bond market saying?

As the most recent action indicates, it is screaming out that the recession is just around the corner. You can learn more about it in my previous post The Shocking Truth Behind The Bond Market Conundrum Explained

This is further confirmed by our mathematical and timing work. It shows a severe bear market between 2014-2017 that will retrace most of the gains accrued over the last few years. One thing is for sure, ignoring today’s yield curve compression (at this stage of the bull market) will be very detrimental to your overall wealth.

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The Shocking Truth Behind The Bond Market Conundrum Explained

We have been overwhelmingly bullish on bonds since the beginning of the year. The bet that has paid off big time thus far. While most market participants expect the rates to rise, we disagree with their view. Here is why…

  1. Our mathematical and timing work predicts a severe bear market between 2014-2017  As it unfolds, it will push the US Economy into a severe recession.To avoid further collapse the FED will have no other choice but to introduce further stimulus into the economy. Driving the rates lower.
  2. Based on our in depth study of financial markets, secular bull/bear markets rarely end in a V shape fashion. Typically, there are longer term double or triple bottoms/tops. Bond yields have been going down for 30 years. I continue to believe that it is wrong to assume that they will simply bottom in 2012-2013 to start their bull market. At least a double bottom is highly probable.

That double bottom should coincide with the recession discussed in point #1. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the 10-Year Note at around 1.5%. Making it one of the best investment opportunities in today’s market.

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Talking Numbers: Think the bond rally is over? Think again.

Few things are weirder right now than the bond market.

The Federal Reserve continues to taper its bond-buying program as the official unemployment rate ticks down. That should mean higher interest rates.

But lots of other things are happening. For example, though the unemployment rate is at 6.3 percent, the labor participation rate is the worst it has been in over three decades. Tensions on the Ukraine-Russia border and data showing China’s manufacturing contracting have sent investors fleeing to the safety of U.S. bonds. That should mean lower interest rates.

This tug-of-war in the bond market has kept rates in a relatively tight range for much of the year. In fact, the yield on the benchmark U.S. 10-Year Treasury Note has stayed between 2.6 and 2.8 percent since February. It wasn’t long ago when a 20 basis-point move was just another humdrum week in the market.

While the 10-Year’s yield dipped below 2.6 percent briefly in the past couple of days, Chantico Global founder Gina Sanchez said, investors shouldn’t expect rates to stay this low indefinitely.

“I don’t think that we can really support going well below 2.6 percent,” said Sanchez, “only because bonds at these levels are really expensive.”

The only way for interest rates to go lower would be for economic expectations to sour, according to Sanchez, a CNBC contributor.

“That’s really not what’s happening,” Sanchez said. “Although it’s not a dramatic recovery, it is still a recovery. We are still seeing a fall in unemployment rates. There are still issues out there but we are actually seeing the consumer come back to life.  So, I think that it doesn’t make any sense to have rates down below here. I think that this is an anomaly and it’s a selling opportunity.”

However, Richard Ross, global technical strategist at Auerbach Grayson, says interest rates will be moving lower.

Ross notes the 10-Year has been trading as a “range within a range.” While it has stayed roughly between 2.6 and 2.8 for the past three months, the larger range has been between 2.5 and 3.0 percent over the course of nearly a year. Ross’ short-term chart of the 10-Year Treasury shows resistance at a yield around 2.72 percent, its 200-day moving average.

But on a longer-term chart, Ross sees rates as having made a “bearish double top” and headed down to test its 200-week moving average. “That comes in at around 2.40” percent, said Ross. “I am bearish on equities … and I think that plays right into bullish play on bonds, meaning prices go higher, rates move lower. Look for a test of that 2.40 [percent] to coincide with a bigger pullback in the equity market.”

The Secret Behind The Bond Markets Blood Bath. The Bets Big Banks Are Making Are Seriously Wrong. Wow.

Major Wall Street firms find themselves on a losing side of a bond trade as the yield curve continues to flatten. While most economists and market participants continue to believe that yields will surge as the FED tightens, that is an idiotic view to have. Why? There won’t be any tightening by the FED.

As our mathematical and timing work indicates, the bear market of 2014-20017 is about to start, when it does the FED will be looking for ways to re-inflate the markets and inject stimulus, not to tighten. Under such circumstances you will witness interest rates come down while the yield curve flattens further. We are beginning to see just that. If you would be interested in learning exactly when the bear market of 2014-2017 will start (to the day) and its subsequent internal composition, please CLICK HERE. 

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Bloomberg Writes: Wall Street Bond Dealers Whipsawed on Bearish Treasuries Bet

Betting against U.S. government debt this year is turning out to be a fool’s errand. Just ask Wall Street’s biggest bond dealers.

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While the losses that their economists predicted have yet to materialize, JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM), Citigroup Inc. (C) and the 20 other firms that trade with the Federal Reserve began wagering on a Treasuries selloff last month for the first time since 2011. The strategy was upended as Fed ChairJanet Yellen signaled she wasn’t in a rush to lift interest rates, two weeks after suggesting the opposite at the bank’s March 19 meeting.

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The surprising resilience of Treasuries has investors re-calibrating forecasts for higher borrowing costs as lackluster job growth and emerging-market turmoil push yields toward 2014 lows. That’s also made the business of trading bonds, once more predictable for dealers when the Fed was buying trillions of dollars of debt to spur the economy, less profitable as new rules limit the risks they can take with their own money.

“You have an uncertain Fed, an uncertain direction of the economy and you’ve got rates moving,” Mark MacQueen, a partner at Sage Advisory Services Ltd., which oversees $10 billion, said by telephone from Austin, Texas. In the past, “calling the direction of the market and what you should be doing in it was a lot easier than it is today, particularly for the dealers.”

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Treasuries (USGG10YR) have confounded economists who predicted 10-year yields would approach 3.4 percent by year-end as a strengthening economy prompts the Fed to scale back its unprecedented bond buying. After surging to a 29-month high of 3.05 percent at the start of the year, yields on the 10-year note have declined and were at 2.72 percent at 7:42 a.m. in New York, according to Bloomberg Bond Trader prices.

Caught Short

One reason yields have fallen is the U.S. labor market, which has yet to show consistent improvement.

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The world’s largest economy added fewer jobs on average in the first three months of the year than in the same period in the prior two years, data compiled by Bloomberg show. At the same time, a slowdown in China and tensions between Russia and Ukraine boosted demand for the safest assets.

Wall Street firms known as primary dealers are getting caught short betting against Treasuries. They collectively amassed $5.2 billion of wagers in March that would profit if Treasuries fell, the first time they had net short positions on government debt since September 2011, the data show.

While the wager initially paid off after Yellen said on March 19 that the Fed may lift its benchmark rate six months after it stops buying bonds, Treasuries have since rallied as her subsequent comments strengthened the view that policy makers will keep borrowing costs low to support growth.

‘Considerable Slack’

On March 31, Yellen highlighted inconsistencies in job data and said “considerable slack” in labor markets showed the Fed’s accommodative policies will be needed for “some time.”

Then, in her first major speech on her policy framework as Fed chair on April 16, Yellen said it will take at least two years for the U.S. economy to meet the Fed’s goals, which determine how quickly the central bank raises rates.

After declining as much as 0.6 percent following Yellen’s March 19 comments, Treasuries have recouped all their losses, index data compiled by Bank of America Merrill Lynch show.

“We had that big selloff and the dealers got short then, and then we turned around and the Fed says, ‘Whoa, whoa, whoa: it’s lower for longer again,'” MacQueen said in an April 15 telephone interview. “The dealers are really worried here. You get really punished if you take a lot of risk.”

Economists and strategists around Wall Street are still anticipating that Treasuries will underperform as yields increase, data compiled by Bloomberg show.

Yield Forecasts

While they’ve ratcheted down their forecasts this year, they predict 10-year yields will increase to 3.36 percent by the end of December. That’s more than 0.6 percentage point higher than where yields are today.

“My forecast is 4 percent,” said Joseph LaVorgna, chief U.S. economist at Deutsche Bank AG, a primary dealer. “It may seem like it’s really aggressive but it’s really not.”

LaVorgna, who has the highest estimate among the 66 responses in a Bloomberg survey, said stronger economic data will likely cause investors to sell Treasuries as they anticipate a rate increase from the Fed.

The U.S. economy will expand 2.7 percent this year from 1.9 percent in 2013, estimates compiled by Bloomberg show. Growth will accelerate 3 percent next year, which would be the fastest in a decade, based on those forecasts.

History Lesson

Dealers used to rely on Treasuries to act as a hedge against their holdings of other types of debt, such as corporate bonds and mortgages. That changed after the credit crisis caused the failure of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. in 2008.

They slashed corporate-debt inventories by 76 percent from the 2007 peak through last March as they sought to comply with higher capital requirements from the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision and stockpiled Treasuries instead.

“Being a dealer has changed over the years, and not least because you also have new balance-sheet constraints that you didn’t have before,” Ira Jersey, an interest-rate strategist at primary dealer Credit Suisse Group AG (CSGN), said in a telephone interview on April 14.

While the Fed’s decision to inundate the U.S. economy with more than $3 trillion of cheap money since 2008 by buying Treasuries and mortgaged-backed bonds bolstered profits as all fixed-income assets rallied, yields are now so low that banks are struggling to make money trading government bonds.

Yields on 10-year notes have remained below 3 percent since January, data compiled by Bloomberg show. In two decades before the credit crisis, average yields topped 6 percent.

Almost Guaranteed

Average daily trading has also dropped to $551.3 billion in March from an average $570.2 billion in 2007, even as the outstanding amount of Treasuries has more than doubled since the financial crisis, according data from the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association.

“During the crisis, the Fed went to great pains to save primary dealers,” Christopher Whalen, banker and author of “Inflated: How Money and Debt Built the American Dream,” said in a telephone interview. “Now, because of quantitative easing and other dynamics in the market, it’s not just treacherous, it’s almost a guaranteed loss.”

The biggest dealers are seeing their earnings suffer. In the first quarter, five of the six biggest Wall Street firms reported declines in fixed-income trading revenue.

JPMorgan, the biggest U.S. bond underwriter, had a 21 percent decrease from its fixed-income trading business, more than estimates from Moshe Orenbuch, an analyst at Credit Suisse, and Matt Burnell of Wells Fargo & Co.

Trading Revenue

Citigroup, whose bond-trading results marred the New York-based bank’s two prior quarterly earnings, reported a 18 percent decrease in revenue from that business. Credit Suisse, the second-largest Swiss bank, had a 25 percent drop as income from rates and emerging-markets businesses fell. Declines in debt-trading last year prompted the Zurich-based firm to cut more than 100 fixed-income jobs in London and New York.

Chief Financial Officer David Mathers said in a Feb. 6 call that Credit Suisse has “reduced the capital in this business materially and we’re obviously increasing our electronic trading operations in this area.” Jamie Dimon, chief executive officer at JPMorgan, also emphasized the decreased role of humans in the rates-trading business on an April 11 call as the New York-based bank seeks to cut costs.

About 49 percent of U.S. government-debt trading was executed electronically last year, from 31 percent in 2012, a Greenwich Associates survey of institutional money managers showed. That may ultimately lead banks to combine their rates businesses or scale back their roles as primary dealers as firms get squeezed, said Krishna Memani, the New York-based chief investment officer of OppenheimerFunds Inc., which oversees $79.1 billion in fixed-income assets.

“If capital requirements were not as onerous as they are now, maybe they could have found a way of making it work, but they aren’t as such,” he said in a telephone interview.